Why have so many humans seen dinosaurs?

Three artworks of St George and the Dragon

If dinosaurs died out 63 million years before humans existed

by Duane Caldwell

Evolutionary theory claims that the age of dinosaurs began about 250 million years ago and ended 65 million years ago when they were wiped out by what many secularist believe was a huge asteroid strike. Humans, the theory claims, only came on the scene 2 million years go… So according to evolutionary theory, the last dinosaurs died out some 63 million years before humans existed, and no human should ever have seen a living dinosaur. If that is the case why have so many  humans in all countries in all ages persistently claimed to have seen dinosaurs? This article suggests that the reason is two fold: 1. The earth is not that old, it is about 6,000 years old so the evolutionary time frame is entirely off, and 2: Humans and dinosaurs were both created on day 6 (Gen 1.24-26; 31) when God made all the other land creatures. We will examine the evidence for item 2: that humans and dinosaurs were created on the same day, and thus have lived together concurrently on the earth for as long as the earth has existed.

But before we get started, let’s clear the path of  red herrings.

Dispensing with Straw Men and Red Herrings
The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophies  entry on “Fallacies” (hereafter referred to simply as the “IEP”) regarding the Straw Man fallacy states:

Your reasoning contains the Straw Man Fallacy whenever you attribute an easily refuted position to your opponent, one that the opponent wouldn’t endorse, and then proceed to attack the easily refuted position (the straw man) believing you have thereby undermined the opponent’s actual position.

Evolutionists are understandably upset when creationists claim evolutionists believe “humans descended from apes.”  Technically, that’s not what they believe, they believe humans and apes have a far distant common ancestor. Thus the “humans descended from apes” argument is a straw man argument that creationists shouldn’t use when discussing evolution.

Likewise evolutionists shouldn’t claim that creationists believe that dinosaurs died out in the global flood because Noah didn’t have enough room for them on the ark. That likewise is a straw man argument.  First, check out the size of the ark with the life sized ark at Ark Encounter in Kentucky, and realize that Noah would have brought on young or juvenile (and thus small) dinosaurs, and there was plenty of room. Second, all the dinosaurs didn’t die out, as we’ll see below, though numbers have been greatly reduced, in large part due to hunting or clearing out by man. If you’re building a city or farm, who wants a Tyrannosaurus Rex living next door? Thus as ancient accounts state, the practice of driving off dinosaurs was common when making new establishments and is a large part of why dinosaurs were driven away from humans. Thus I will ask old earth believers to refrain from this vacuous argument, as I ask creationists to refrain from the “humans from apes” argument.

Regarding Red Herrings the IEP states:

A red herring is a smelly fish that would distract even a bloodhound. It is also a digression that leads the reasoner off the track of considering only relevant information.

Likewise there are arguments that are no more than distractions and digressions that evolutionists use when discussing this issue of dinosaurs and its related issue of the age of the earth. Since this article is intended to be primarily a short list of the many instances where people have seen dinosaurs, I will not spend much time here on the many fallacious thought processes people have around this topic, but I do want to point out two common ones. Here’s the first one:

“Humans cannot have seen dinosaurs because everyone knows that dinosaurs died out millions of years before humans existed.” This fails for a number of reasons, most obviously because of the appeal to a (fallacious) common belief. The IEP on the appeal to a common belief refers you to two other errors incorporated in this one: the fallacies of appealling to the people and appealling to traditional wisdom. Suffice it to say this objection is based on a faulty assumption generated by the erroneous  evolutionary world view propagated by secular scientists which I discuss elsewhere. The evolutionary worldview requires dinosaurs to live an earlier age than man. But is that true? How would you know? By looking at the evidence. That is precisely why we’re looking at evidence, and not going merely on assumptions of those with an evolutionary worldview axe to grind.

“The Bible is not trustworthy in this matter because it never mentions dinosaurs.” This is sort of like saying the Bible is untrustworthy in speaking about God because it never mentions the word “God.”  This is an obvious example because almost everyone knows the Bible was not written originally in English. The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, and in those languages, obviously what we call in English “God” (hebrew: אלהים – (elohim) and Greek: Θεος – (theos) ) is mentioned many times.

Likewise the English word “dinosaur” did not exist until some 17 centuries after the Bible was completed so we wouldn’t expect it to be in the Bible. It was first used in 1842 – by sir Richard Owen, head of the British museum who invented the word.  Words used in the Bible to describe dinosaurs include:

Most commonly:

Tanniyn (תננים – typically translated dragon, sometimes serpent, used some 28 times) example:  Psalm 91.13 “You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the תננים” (dragon). Notice it is in a group with real creatures.

But also:

Behemoth (בהמות – exact meaning unknown, by description Diplodocus or Brachiosaurus) example: Job 40.15 ff (ff=and following) (“Look at בהמות, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox.) Read the  description that follows that verse in Job – it’s the description of a large dinosaur.

And:

Leviathan (לויתן Sea monster, dragon) example: Job 41.1 ff

So the first thing we need to understand as we start our investigation is that dinosaurs are more ubiquitous than is commonly realized because they’ve gone for a long time by an unrecognized name: Dragon.

Dinosaurs used to be called Dragons

Most people believe that tales of dragons are mere myths. But we’ve already seen that in the Bible, dinosaurs are called dragons. And as everyone knows, dragons show up in many legends of old. Legends typically start out with some real, tangible event or object, as John Morris, President, Institute for Creation Research points out:

“Most anthropologists will tell you that whenever you have a legend or mythology, that there’s something that happened that started that myth.”

What evidence (in addition to the Bible) do we have that the dragons of yesterday are the dinosaurs of the today?

Dinosaurs – called dragons – have been seen everywhere Darek Isaacs, author of  Dragons or Dinosaurs Creation or Evolution states:

“Dragon legends are absolutely a phenomenon. There are literally too many legends to count. They’re in every tribe and nation, every people group. And you have them in China, Australia, Africa, Europe, North America, South America. Everywhere where people inhabit.”

Anthropologist David Jones marvels not only that they’re found everywhere, but they typically have the same characteristics. After studying over 100 cultures around the world, he remarks:

“…there’s no way to explain how Eskimos could imagine the same dragon that let’s say the Polynesians would imagine, that a Chinese classical scholar would image, that the knights of king Arthur would imagine. So clearly we’re not talking about something that’s imagined here.”

These dragons were not imagined creatures. These are creatures that were seen by humans.  Let me dispense with one more red herring that’s been used regarding much of the evidence in the form of pictures, carvings, etc. that confirm humans seeing dinosaurs: the claim that ancient people drew or carved dinosaurs based on having figured out what they look like after re-constructing bones and fossils of dinosaurs. That reveals great ignorance regarding how difficult it is to construct a dinosaur, having never seen it, from bones…  I am not the only one holding to that opinion. Speaking of a carving of astegosaurus found in the Angkor Watt Temple complex in Cambodia, Otis Kline, founder of the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum points out the problem with stating ancient people drew dinosaurs from bones:

“Unless it were living, how would it get its anatomy correct? They had to see it in order to reproduce it correctly. And that’s just one of over 80 instances around the world in every single continent where it’s been found that humans and dinosaurs have co-existed because the humans have reproduced dinosaurs in one art form or another.”

So understanding that ancient cultures were able to depict dinosaurs in various types of art (drawings, paintings, carved in rock, etc.) only because they had seen them, let’s look at the evidence. We’ll start with the ancient, and move to the more recent…

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image credit: Artworks wikipedia/commons: images 1. 2. 3.